
Amadeus Travel Tech Talk
In this podcast, we engage in conversations with our leaders, customers and industry experts to discuss the latest trends and developments in the travel technology industry.
Amadeus Travel Tech Talk
Transforming Hospitality: Technology and the Power of Data
As part of the Travel Technology Investment Trends 2024 research, we surveyed 1,200 technology leaders from across the travel industry, including hospitality leaders. The research benchmarks how hospitality leaders are making strategic bets on digital transformation.
In this episode, we sit down with Maria Taylor, Senior Vice President of Marketing, Partnerships, and Commercial Operations for Hospitality, Amadeus, and Martin Cowen, Contributing Editor to delve into how hospitality leaders are planning their investments for the future.
Tune in to this episode to explore:
- Following the shift to online booking tools in the late '90s, approximately 60% to 65% of hotel room sales are now conducted online, allowing sales teams to focus on high-value tasks that drive revenue.
- Hotels worldwide are facing significant labor challenges, with 67% reporting staff shortages.
- 85% of hoteliers believe that personalization can deliver incremental revenue and a much better guest experience.
What can we expect in this next exciting chapter of our industry? Tune in to find out.
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- Good morning, good
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...afternoon, or good evening.
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Whatever time of day it is,
welcome to the latest Travel
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...Technology Investment
Trends podcast from Amadeus.
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And my name is Martin Cowan.
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I'm a contributing editor for
Amadeus, and I'm the host of today's
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...podcast, in which we're gonna
be talking about hospitality.
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We're gonna be focusing on the current
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...state of play in the hotel
technology landscape.
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We're gonna be referencing
some of the findings
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...from the Amadeus research
into their technology spend.
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We're gonna be explaining
the connection between
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...these tech spend decisions
and today's guest expectations.
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And we're gonna throw in some real
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...world and personal experiences as well.
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So let me introduce my
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...guest on today's podcast.
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It's Maria Taylor, who is, and let me
get this right, she is Senior Vice President
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...of Marketing, Partnerships and Commercial
Operations for Hospitality for Amadeus.
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Hi, Maria.
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- Hi, Martin.
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Great to join you on the podcast today.
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- Yeah, just briefly, so what does
the Vice President of Marketing,
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Partnerships and Commercial Operations
for Hospitality do on a day-to-day basis?
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- So having four, and
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...we will add ESG as well.
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So I also have sustainability.
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ESG, apologies.
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You need a new business card.
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- It just didn't fit on
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I moved into this role
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and I actually, I'm Australian, you can
probably tell from my accent, but I spent
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...the last 16 years in Singapore and I moved
to Madrid earlier this year to adopt this role.
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So it's a really exciting
role because it has
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across the organization.
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So I work across the whole of our
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...hospitality organization
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- Great, so perfect person to
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Absolutely.
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Spending trends then.
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Okay, so let's get going.
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So there's a lot
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There's a lot going on in technology.
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There's a lot going on
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And I'm assuming anybody listening in
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...to this has heard
about AI, generative AI.
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Arguably, it's the most transformative
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But I don't know, there's been
a shift recently that I've noticed
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technology space from the outside.
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There seems to have
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that artificial intelligence
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the data that it can feed on,
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which is good news, but it's no
news to the hotel industry because
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need good data for more than just AI.
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Data, as we know, is relevant at
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So anything that we talk about in
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have a data angle.
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look at the issues and
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picture themes and trends
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probably the most important
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what guest trends is Amadeus
seeing when it comes to
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processes can be personalized.
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So what are the challenges
that hoteliers are facing and
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- So Martin, in the recent research
we did, 85% of hoteliers feels that
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revenue and a much better guest experience.
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to offer to the customers what
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ensure that any communication,
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any marketing that they do to
the customers is personalized.
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You know, how often we hear
from our customers saying that
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from hotels is not relevant to them.
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Martin, I'm sure you've got that
email that tells you about the great
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...Sunday brunch when you're staying
there from Monday to Friday in a hotel.
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Data underpins all of that.
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In our integrated booking
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with web solutions and media
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thrown into it, that goes through the whole
personalization stage from dreaming about where you're
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...going to stay to selecting your hotel, to
booking it, to when you stay, and then to post-stay.
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It covers the whole journey, but there is, you
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...amount of data points under there that hotels
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I've got a really good example with
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If you don't know this hotel,
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...located in Bali, which is one of
my favorite places in the world.
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with their booking engine,
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with really targeted campaign.
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And what it led to was a 40%
increase in ADR over the prior year, and
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...a significant boost to direct bookings
coming via their websites, the OTA.
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the Upstar Luxury Hotel in Bali.
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which different types of guests
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have a different expectation
on the degree to which their stay
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I had no expectation of
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It was very functional for me.
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...hotels depending on, as I said, what degree
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In an economy hotel, there's
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you, remember your preferences, whether
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They know all your details.
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there's basic requirements
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the expectation is for
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that you know that customer.
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thousands of dollars
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which is not uncommon these days, you
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I have a personal example of
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Arrived at the hotel and you get picked up from
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...have the ranger who's gonna take you out, you know,
looking for animals throughout the week, pick you up.
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Where have you been
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in our room was a bottle of wine.
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on the way in about going to
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...the vineyard of Hamilton Russell,
and how we loved this wine.
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The hotel had that wine
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food and drink that
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our favorite beverages.
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another question that I was going to ask
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requirements.
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you know, pillow menus, for example.
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How does housekeeping
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on-site delivery of those
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They need workflow management tools.
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we call it service optimization.
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So that's about having all the details stored in
your CRM, you know, then it flows into the PMS
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...system, and then starts automatically triggering to
your workflow management personalization requests.
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So last time you stayed at
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That's stored in your profile.
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when housekeeping makes up the room,
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they have that pillow
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Every time you stay, you're a regular
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personally had of that is the first
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They gave me a fruit basket.
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I went back there a few
weeks later, and they
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I went back the third
time, second time I
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I had a basket of grapes.
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and that's between using
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Now, your staff have to see, hear, know what
you're doing, what you like in a hotel, and then they have
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...to record it, and they record it into their guest
profile system, their CRM, guest management solution.
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I mean, there is the argument,
which I think, to be fair, is less prevalent
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...these days, about technology destroying
the human element of the hospitality
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industry, and it seems, from what
you're saying, that technology, when
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...used correctly, can actually enhance
the on-property guest experience.
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I'm also just thinking
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All hoteliers at all price
points in all markets, all
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it difficult to attract staff.
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So, is there a connection between using
technology and empowering staff, using technology to
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or is, or dare you say it, is technology a cost?
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Can technology be used
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- So, a bit of both.
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Technology can certainly be
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but these days, it's not so
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It's just there's staff
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There's challenges getting staff, yeah?
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There was a report released recently by
the American Hotel and Lodging Association, AHLA,
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and they showed that 67% of US hotels
surveyed said they're experiencing staffing shortages.
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Yeah, I've come out of Asia, and you
think countries like China or Vietnam
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...or Indonesia don't have, those
countries also all have staffing shortages.
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what we can do to help with
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...this all the time, and there's
a few interesting things.
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One of the things we're finding is that a lot of
hotels where they've got either multiple hotels in
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...the city or an owner has multiple hotels in the city,
they're now clustering something like housekeeping.
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So, instead of having three or four different
sets of housekeeping people, they have one set, so
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...they get a bit more flexibility across the hotels,
but for that, they need a housekeeping system
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that then looks at those
four hotels virtually as one
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...hotel, so they can allocate
Maria into the Ibis today
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and tomorrow into the Marriott
and maybe this afternoon into
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...the independent hotels, and
outsourced housekeeping also uses it.
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So, this clustering
ability with housekeeping
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...is really important for the staffing.
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Another area is sales.
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So, Martin, you won't
believe it, but it is very
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...hard, very, very hard
to get good salespeople,
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and it's very hard to
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...keep good salespeople.
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They're hard to find,
and hotels are trying to
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utilize the salespeople.
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It's really not even so much about cost-saving,
it's about once you've got a good person,
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you want to make sure that they are focused
on things that are gonna make the most money.
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So, years ago, we sort of moved
sales out of a lot of the individual room
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...sales, 'cause we went to online
booking tools, you know, in the late '90s.
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So, now probably 60, 65% of
hotel room sales are done via online,
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whether that be a hotel's
website or whether that be an OTA.
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But a big part of the business
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...is meeting rooms as well.
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Many hotels have significant
meeting room space, and, you know,
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up until now, meeting rooms
have been a very manual booking.
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I don't know if you've ever tried to
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...book a meeting room
for 40 or 50 people.
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You go out to three hotels, you ask
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It probably takes 48 hours to 72
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Then you've got to
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...review the three quotes.
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Then you've got to go
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...back to the salesperson.
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Then the salesperson
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The whole process,
both from the booker and
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...the hotel, is labor-intensive,
waste of time, inefficient.
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So, what we've just
released is what we call Delphi
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...Direct, and we think it's
a real game-changer for hotels.
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The majority of meetings in hotels all
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...over the world are for simple meetings.
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They're less than 100 people.
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They're for training
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...sessions, team meetings,
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getting their employees together now
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...that there's so much
of a remote workforce.
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And they just want basic requirements.
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They want a meeting room, and
they want what we call a day-delicate
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...package, yeah, morning tea, lunch,
afternoon tea, projector and a screen.
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So, now an organizer or a PA,
whoever's booking a meeting, can just go
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...online, look for a meeting room,
just like they look for a hotel room
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now on an OTA, and they can book
it, confirm it in the space for a couple
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...of minutes, saving both the hotel
and the customer a lot of time.
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It will be a real game-changer.
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Within a few years,
I think all meetings
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...except the large ones
will be booked that way.
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- It's an argument around
technology can boost, is
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...more about cost efficiency
rather than cost savings.
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So, you get the most out of the teams that you
have by utilizing the technology available to optimize
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...their working day while hopefully making their
working day easier because they know exactly what it is
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that they've got to do.
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We cannot not talk about
sustainability, particularly as I did
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...miss it off your job responsibilities
earlier on in the podcast.
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What did the Travel
Technology Investment
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...Trends Survey for hoteliers
say about sustainability?
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And where is technology playing into
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...the sustainability demands
that hoteliers have?
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And again, we're looking at those
sustainability demands from the guest,
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but increasingly there's also
sustainability demands from regulators.
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OTAs are increasingly asking hoteliers
to provide sustainable information
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...so that the OTAs can surface that
information during the booking flow.
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There's a whole gamut of connections
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...between technology and sustainability.
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So, just maybe sort of top
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...line, where's Amadeus on this?
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- So, firstly, where's
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...the industry on it?
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So, 87% of respondents confirm
that sustainability objectives are
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...important or very important driver of
technology investment at their hotel.
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However, what hotels want to do around
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...technology and
sustainability is still unclear.
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So, the most important request we are receiving
from hotels and from the industry bodies, such as we're
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...a partner with World Hospitality, World Sustainable
Hospitality Alliance, and that's around accessibility.
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So, WSHA, they have, all the big
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...brands are represented there.
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The OTAs are represented there.
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It's come together as a really good
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...alliance, bringing
the industry together.
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The two main things to tackle through
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...technology is right now, accessibility.
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And the other one is getting some
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...sort of generic sustainability ratings.
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It doesn't matter where you
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...go, it's a different rating system.
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And so, trying to come across
as an industry and find somehow
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...where we can benchmark all
the different rating systems so
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that the customer knows
that they're legitimate, not just
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...the hotel having said, yes,
we're a five-star sustainable hotel.
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Accessibility, though, I think will be
the first thing that we tackle and the first thing
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...the industry wants tackling because there's
a lot of legislation coming out around that.
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Yeah, in Europe, in the US in particular,
from next year, there's quite a bit
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...of legislation, both as an employer
and as a company around accessibility.
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So, you'd think it's quite easy,
but what we're looking to do is
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...how can we display better
accessibility features to the travelers?
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And then how can we
better display a traveler's
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...accessibility needs back
to hotels and to airlines?
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So, right now, electronically,
whether it be an OTA or whether it
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...be a GDS system, there's really
one code that says accessibility.
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Does that mean it's
for hearing impaired,
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sight impaired, wheelchair,
what does that mean?
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So, the person with accessibility needs
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...arrives at the airport
or arrives at the hotel
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and it's only then that the hotel or
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...airline knows what the needs are.
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So, trying to get that in
advance to the hotels and to
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...the airlines and to the airports,
that will be a big help.
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And trying to get to the end
traveler so that they've got a true
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...knowledge and understanding of
what is available for them at the hotels.
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Right now, hotels will
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...have an accessible room.
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What does that mean?
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Does it mean it has a shower that's
fitted out or does it mean it's for visually
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...impaired, it's set up right, or for
hearing impaired, it's set up right?
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That's almost impossible
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...to come across.
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So, it's a hard area to tackle.
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In an electronic booking environment,
it's not as simple as it seems 'cause there's
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...very many different accessibility needs,
but we need to tackle it as an industry.
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- An enabler of the industry's
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...ability to tackle it.
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I don't think technology in and of itself is
the answer to this, but technology by surfacing
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...the information in the right way to the customer
at the right time, at the same time as making sure
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that what has been promised is actually
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...delivered on site is all
to do with technology.
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And it would be impossible to get
anywhere near the legislative and regulatory
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...requirements without having a very
sort of robust tech strategy in place.
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So, we've talked,
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bounced around quite a bit.
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We've talked about personalization.
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We've talked about
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...accessibility, a bit about data.
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So, if we were to try and sort of sum it up in
terms of what is sort of like the number one
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...priority for hoteliers from what you've seen on
the streets, what the mood music is in the industry,
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what the research says.
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I mean, is it possible to just try
and synthesize or amalgamate it
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...all into one sort of killer conclusion
that people can take away?
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- Martin, it's actually not hard to synthesize
because according to our research and according to
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...all conversations we have with hoteliers, whether
that be small hotels to large enterprise chains,
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hoteliers feel that data fragmentation,
inefficiency of data, data integrity are
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...the top of their list when thinking about
most pressing needs with technology.
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But a hotel can have anything up to 40
different systems across their hotels that
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...with different data sources that are
not integrated, they can't pull it together.
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So, our goal in hotel technology is
to become the end-to-end partner
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...for the hospitality industry, solving
the industry-wide problems of
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data silos, costly infrastructures
caused by this fragmentation of
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...so many technologies, and then
using our business intelligence suites
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with the most comprehensive set
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...of data to pull all this data together.
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I guess our key differentiator when
we look at the industry is just the sheer
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...breadth and depth of our products
and the extensive on-the-book historical
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and forward-looking data that we have
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...from over five and
a half million rooms,
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800 million reservations, which
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...are updated and refreshed every day.
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So, what we can help the industry
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...with is really bringing data together
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and helping them to then
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...use that data effectively,
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whether it be for what we talked about
with personalization, whether it be with
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...sustainability, whether it be with making
better business decisions, being more productive.
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At the heart of anything a hotelier
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...wants to do, data is the core.
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- I mean, that's really useful.
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And it does sort of
chime with what I've
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...been sort of, again, from
the outside looking in,
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what I've been picking up.
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And it looks as if what AI and generative AI has done is
it almost appears to have re-emphasized the importance
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...of data integrity, all the issues that the industry was
talking about 10 years ago when it was all about big data,
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veracity, the volume of the data,
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the accuracy of it,
the way it is surfaced.
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And it seems as if Amadeus has got
a real handle on that because basically
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...you say AI is based on data, but
almost all technology is based on data.
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So I think it's gonna be really interesting
to watch how the data element of
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...the AI conversation is gonna progress
over the next year, the next decade.
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I think we're in for
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...a very exciting time.
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And is there anything on
the horizon at Amadeus, just
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...maybe some sort of left field
thinking that's happening?
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It might be nice to sign off with.
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So you were talking about AI.
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So we're really looking a lot because
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...we have such a great data layer.
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We're now really looking at
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...where is the best investment for AI?
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Where is the best need
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...of the hoteliers around AI?
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So we've launched recently on our BI tools, an assistant
where instead of trolling through a whole pile of data
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...within the tool, your hotel can ask, can you tell me
what's our biggest demand day in the next three months?
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And it can reply, Martin, your
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...biggest demand day is the 27th of June.
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One of the things that I'm excited
about, and it's just an interesting thing,
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is I'm excited about using data and
using data for the 13th of February, 2029.
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Now I might have
the day off a bit, but I'll
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...tell you why I'm
interested about that date.
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One of the busiest travel times
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...in the world is Chinese New Year.
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00:26:38,761 --> 00:26:42,107
There's a huge China
route bound market and
471
00:26:42,112 --> 00:26:45,920
...they travel the two weeks
after Chinese New Year.
472
00:26:45,921 --> 00:26:47,899
Okay, so Chinese New Year
473
00:26:47,904 --> 00:26:50,600
...in 2029 is the 13th of February.
474
00:26:50,601 --> 00:26:52,304
Another huge travel market
475
00:26:52,309 --> 00:26:54,280
...is the Muslim travel market.
476
00:26:54,281 --> 00:26:55,221
They travel the two
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00:26:55,226 --> 00:26:56,320
...weeks after Ramadan.
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00:26:57,270 --> 00:26:59,687
Okay, so they have the fasting month
479
00:26:59,692 --> 00:27:02,720
...and then two weeks
of travel after Ramadan.
480
00:27:02,721 --> 00:27:05,400
When does Ramadan end in 2029?
481
00:27:05,401 --> 00:27:09,360
It ends on the 13th of February, 2029.
482
00:27:09,361 --> 00:27:13,634
So you have, for the first
time ever, the two biggest
483
00:27:13,639 --> 00:27:17,520
...travel periods coming
together at the same time.
484
00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:22,800
I cannot wait to see what data models
do, and really we'll start looking at
485
00:27:22,805 --> 00:27:27,420
...2029 now, it's five years out, what
data models start to predict for that time.
486
00:27:29,001 --> 00:27:32,866
But I'll tell you now, if you
want to stay in a hotel or book
487
00:27:32,871 --> 00:27:37,240
...an airline over that time, I'd be
looking to book as soon as you can.
488
00:27:37,241 --> 00:27:41,240
- Wow, you heard it here first.
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00:27:41,241 --> 00:27:43,647
13th of February, 2029, the biggest
490
00:27:43,652 --> 00:27:46,200
...day in the history of travel maybe?
491
00:27:46,201 --> 00:27:47,040
I don't know.
492
00:27:47,041 --> 00:27:48,360
I don't know.
493
00:27:48,361 --> 00:27:49,280
I'll get back to you on that.
494
00:27:49,281 --> 00:27:50,720
I'll see you in five years time.
495
00:27:50,721 --> 00:27:52,840
- We'll look at the data together.
496
00:27:52,841 --> 00:27:53,840
- Yeah, let's do that.
497
00:27:53,841 --> 00:27:56,618
So listen, Maria, I've really enjoyed
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00:27:56,623 --> 00:27:59,480
...it, but that's not really the point.
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00:27:59,481 --> 00:28:00,458
I hope people listening
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00:28:00,463 --> 00:28:01,360
...in have enjoyed it.
501
00:28:01,361 --> 00:28:02,176
We've, as I said, we've
502
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:03,000
...bounced around a lot.
503
00:28:03,001 --> 00:28:04,120
We could go on.
504
00:28:04,121 --> 00:28:08,616
We haven't gone on to destination marketing
or climate or attribute-based shopping,
505
00:28:08,621 --> 00:28:13,121
which is a whole load of hotel tech stuff
that we haven't touched the sides of yet.
506
00:28:14,481 --> 00:28:17,854
If you're interested, anybody
listening, then don't forget, you
507
00:28:17,859 --> 00:28:20,920
...can go to amadeus.com/insights
where you can download, or
508
00:28:20,921 --> 00:28:24,696
you will be given access to
a holding page from where you can
509
00:28:24,701 --> 00:28:28,480
...download the Hospitality
Technology Investment Trends Report.
510
00:28:28,481 --> 00:28:33,080
And the Hospitality Report is one of a series if
you've got any interest in airlines, business travel, retail,
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00:28:33,085 --> 00:28:37,481
travel agencies, online travel agencies, the specific
data and research produced for those areas as well.
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00:28:42,921 --> 00:28:44,300
And on that note, I think
513
00:28:44,305 --> 00:28:45,800
...it's time to say goodbye.
514
00:28:45,801 --> 00:28:46,959
Maria, thank you very much
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00:28:46,964 --> 00:28:48,440
...for taking the time to join us.
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00:28:48,441 --> 00:28:49,802
Everybody out there, thank you
517
00:28:49,807 --> 00:28:51,720
...very much for taking
the time to listen.
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00:28:51,721 --> 00:28:52,539
My name's Martin Cowan
519
00:28:52,544 --> 00:28:53,480
...and I'm saying goodbye.
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00:28:53,481 --> 00:28:54,681
Goodbye.